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  1. Darian Stephens

    ‘Ze Great Society’, eh?
    Hehehehe, ohhh Kass, you have THINGS you can do!
    And things I wanna hear about! This is SUCH good information.
    And yesss, Kass, pull his threads good! He’s got secrets that must be uncovered!

  2. Mars6

    taking bets that this somehow ends with seduction

    • Not likely from Kass. The patriarch might try seduction on Kass, which would fail completely.

      • Mars6

        yes but have you considered that it would be really funny to watch

      • BigNorseWolf

        as a traditionalist wouldn’t he be fielding that question to Matriarch Vizlet?

        • Maddiman

          He SHOULD have, but apparently he’s not as savvy as he first appears.
          Kass is playing off his ego and convictions by pretending to largely agree with him, so he wants to milk that for every drop of understanding that he can get. Which is why this angle works so well at manipulating him.

    • Saraccoon

      My bet’s on not so much seduction as a meaningful, emotionally intimate connection. In a way, they’re both outsiders to this enclave who are struggling to fit in. And in this page we’re starting to see why; someone people cared about was taken away, and then Narklet was dropped in her place. Whether a spy for the Central Enclaves or not, Narklet was pigeonholed from the start and never stood a chance at forming positive social relationships with this community.

      And the way Narklet’s talking about it… this is someone who deeply recognizes the pain that they’re associated with, and has spent a lot of time talking themselves through those feelings in a search for purpose. I’d originally thought that the scavenging was some kind of secret mission, but now I’m thinking it might have been the job Narklet learned as a way to be useful while spending time alone.

      Then in walks Kass, and even if Kass tells himself it’s just to gain intel, he’s paying close attention to Narklet’s feelings, remembering what is important to Narklet… Kass is making a friend. He might be Narklet’s -first- friend.

      I’m shipping them so hard. It doesn’t have to be in a breeding sense, I just want to see Kass put his arm around Narklet like he did on Page #366, a lot!

      • Nikary Flare

        Wow that’s a deep shade of rose tint on your glasses…

        Kass is lying to Narklet and tricking him, you know.

        • Keileon

          Kass lying does not change how Narklet interprets this interaction.

          • Nikary Flare

            Yeah, well, a true friendship is a two-way thing.

            • Keileon

              And none of this prevents a friendship from eventually forming.

              • Nikary Flare

                Yes it does??? Kass doesn’t consider Narklet a friendly face, neither does Kass act like a friend.

    • readdungeoncrawlercarl

      this is /j i assume?

  3. BigNorseWolf

    Well that answers a question we’d been wondering about the elders. They’re either male or a mixed group, not super matriarchs or “he” wouldn’t have been sent to deal with it.

    • NobodyYouWouldRemember

      Not really.

      The central enclaves would not have sent a superior elder to deal with a remote enclave, and certainly would not have sent a female given their rarity and position in yinglet society. The elder they sent would perforce have been a subordinate elder male given the nature of the mission. Any female would have been sent to replace Vizlet, not merely correct her. The male elder they sent would have been high ranking enough to admonish Vizlet and the Valsalian Enclave, but low enough ranking to risk taking the dangerous trip to get there. It’s like how the Secretary of State for the real world United States gets sent to deal with international kerfuffles instead of the President. They’re ranking enough to have authority, but not the pinnacle of the hierarchy sending them (which I still believe are yinglet matriarchs).

      Aside: this makes me wonder why Figgins is just a patriarch of a remote enclave instead of being considered an elder, given his age. I’m beginning to suspect the central enclaves have been using Valsalia as a dumping ground for their awkward oddballs lest they spread “dangerous” ideas to the central population.

      And they dumped Narklet there because he’s annoying.

      • BigNorseWolf

        We do not know if there are levels of Elder or not.

        If there are ranks, one of them is male and therefore some of the elders are male. You’re arguing with math here for reasons I cannot fathom. Its right there on the page. This is at least the second time you’ve asked me to agree with your say so over my own eyes and.. that’s a no.

        • ThornyMu

          I’m confused, what are they asking you to believe that contradicts the page?

          • Bignorsewolf

            That we don’t know that some if not all of the elders are male. The elder that came to deal with …whatever the enclave was doing .. was called ” he” . Some people have theorized that since local politics seem matriarcal the trend would continue up through society and the vague elders would turn out to be females.

            I think its like a lot of irl societies like the Iroquois? Iirc where locally you have a matriarchy and female household ownership but theres a male dominated ” national” or regional government , but a sample size of one elder doesn’t get us there yet.

            • AlyxVixen

              There’s a field guide that covers the “ranks” within Yinglet Society.

              It’s between No.27 and 28 in the Archives. But basically it’s the Matriarch and Patriarchs are in charge.

              • BigNorseWolf

                That only covers locally. There’s more to yinglet society than that.

  4. Umbers

    He really said :3

  5. Aineko

    I feel like Kass’ employers are going to be shocked and amazed to find out he’s actually good for this job in more ways than shape plus loyalty.

  6. bh

    Funny how much he sounds like a Terrestrial god squadder.

    Do we believe that the forced exile of females (not that that wouldn’t be bad enough!) is the worst that happened? No massacre?

    • Wilson

      He didn’t say anyone was exiled. But people were forced to move to different enclaves. And it sounds like there was a cap on the number of females that this enclave was allowed to keep. That explains why there seems to be an age gap between Vizlet and Feeeena and the younger generation, and why the male-female ratio in this enclave is higher than what Ran described in his Field Guides. It sounds like they’re still recovering from what the Elder did. I want to hear Vizlet’s side of this story too.

      • NobleCuriosity

        Yeah, when Viracroix offered Kass’s service as a diplomat to Vizlet, she outright mentioned that it would be great to have another woman, as theirs tended to get sent to the rural enclaves.

    • BigNorseWolf

      I’m thinking you can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs and in the case of their perfect society it was literal…

  7. Nikary Flare

    Is this the first time inner!Kass takes form of a yinglet?

    • YingletKarri

      I tink dat de “innerKass” behind hims is repre-… uhh, representing de face he stopping himself from makings.

      • Nikary Flare

        Methinks he could’ve made that face as a human too, though ^^”

  8. LeBonk

    What such threads do you have, Kassen? Do you consider them to be vulnerabilities?

  9. Wilson

    Keep him taking Kass! I want the next journal entry to be a huge lore dump of Narklet’s teaching about the “foundational tenets of the Great Society,” the life and legacy of the “Great One,” the work Narklet is doing in his “mission” as a patriarch, etc. It’s probably what Viracroix would most want to learn about, but also what I most want to learn about! Maybe ask the patriarchs to give a tour of their work, so you can go see what the patriarch of scavenging is up to on the beach?

    • Saraccoon

      OMG as a Narklet x Kass shipper I would fall right over if they went on a beach walk together >,.<

  10. Robert Haynie

    Vizlet previously thought that Kass might make a dangerous Matriarch candidate.

    I think she’s underestimating the Ambassador a bit.

    • Azure Zenith

      I zhink he would turn down the position if offered. He doesn’t want to be dragged all zhe way into complying wizh centrally-coordinated eugenics, but he does want to help Vizlet modernize her people, and knows zhat can’t happen if zhe elders are alienated too abruptly. Being matriarch of an openly-recognized enclave (being Lopin’s Matriarch isn’t a problem if Lopin stays gay and Narklet never regards it as a real enclave) would necessitates choosing between zhose priorities. I zhink he’d prefer to fight zhat war from outside, wizhout having to get pregnant or choose breeding schedules personally.

      And I zhink he has enough on his plate trying to get Brakka alive for questioning about zhe artifact – wizhout Brakka finding and killing him first – and looking for ways to get his true form back. And while Ran is taking responsibility for Yannit, Kassen still has to live with zhe anxiety of not knowing how a friend’s fate will turn out.

      He’s got zhe knowledge, skills and abilities. But it would pit his priorities against eachozher. At best force him to forfeit some goals in favour of ozhers; at worst it would break him.

    • BigNorseWolf

      I don’t think kass considers yinglet made positions real. Like of a bunch of sugar addled toddlers handed you a burger king crown and said their you’re duke of the playground now you have to answer to the master of slides. Uh huh cool make believe kid…

      I think he might be underestimating Narklet here, or how dangerous even his friends could be when that “made up” weirdo yinglet culture/religion demands HE be relocated somewhere under elder orders…

      • Maddiman

        If that happens, he, or his bodyguards, could cause a full Diplomatic incident that might even split the colony off from the Central Colonies (If Vizlet stands with Kass instead of with Narklet.) Since they would at that point almost certainly ask for a formalized alliance with House Ivermoth in order to be able to survive, Kass may earn his pay in the most underhanded way possible, while having mostly no clue that’s what he’s doing.

  11. Keileon

    I can kinda empathize with Narklet here. He’s clearly being painted as “fundamentally good person doing fundamentally wrong things because of upbringing”. He doesn’t like that punishment was deemed necessary. He’s justifying it to himself. He even seems a bit uncomfortable with it and is telling himself more than Kass that it won’t be necessary anymore because he’s here to keep them on the right path. Not “keep them in line”, but “guide them back towards the light”.

    (also getting post glitches again involving captcha not appearing until I try to post and then it thinking I’m trying to post a duplicate)

    • Wilson

      I tend to agree. It would be easy to see him as the bad guy here, but I do think he actually wants to help the enclave. The fact that they don’t want his help, and that they probably think of his presence as part of the elders’ punishment, makes things awkward. What really makes me suspicious of him is that his “mission” along the coastline had him willing to get help from Brakka. I really want to hear his side of that story, but it’ll probably be a while before Kass has built enough rapport with him to mention that name.

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